Switching between maximised tasklist and comments Topic is solved

[TableListFan]

Just a small bug:

In the preferences select "Show comments even when tasklist is maximized", then go to the task tree.

With the attribute editor being visible you can switch between tasklist and comments by shortcut key F11.

Maximize the tasklist - now F11 stops working.


Greetings, TLF

TDL 9.0b3

[abstr]

How about this, @TableListFan

1. If both the tasks and the comments are visible (ie. neither is 'maximised'), the behaviour remains as current
2. If the tasks are maximised, F11 causes the comments to be maximised
3. If the comments are maximised, F11 causes the tasks to be maximised

Actually it's a bit trickier than this, I'll post something better tomorrow.

[TableListFan]

Thank you for your answer, @abstr !

Just to clarify my workflow:

I don't need access to the attribute editor everytime. So i like to maximize the task list to see more of my content. It is easier to press F11 to toogle the focus between task and comment than to take the mouse and click.

...i did not thought that this would be complicated - you see i am a user, not a developer

I am looking for your answer tomorrow.

ToDoList 9.0B3; Win10; German language and keyboard

[abstr]

It is easier to press F11 to toogle the focus between task and comment than to take the mouse and click.

Note: You can also 'Ctrl + Shift + M' to maximise the comments, but your request is still entirely reasonable.

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So why did I say it's a bit trickier than that? Well, it all relates to how 'View > Maximise Tasks' and 'View > Maximise Comments' currently work together.

Maybe if I describe that current behaviour and you verify it for yourself, you can then tell me whether you (personally) think it's too complicated and can be simplified:

FWIW, good software IMO leaves its users in no doubt as to what will happen when they undertake an action, and I'm not convinced I've got it quite right here.

A) Starting from an unmaximised state

1. 'Maximise Tasklist' -> Tasklist is maximised
2. 'Maximise Tasklist' again -> Tasklist is unmaximised
3. Likewise for 'Maximise Comments' when starting from an unmaximised state

B) Starting from a tasklist maximised state

1. 'Maximise Comments' -> Comments is maximised
2. 'Maximise Comments' again -> Tasklist is remaximised

C) Starting from a comments maximised state

1. 'Maximise Tasklist' -> Tasklist is maximised
2. 'Maximise Tasklist' again -> Comments is remaximised

[TableListFan]

Thanks for this explanation, @abstr

I have expressed myself unclearly.

I don't actually need maximisation, I just want to see as much of my task list as possible. To achieve this, I hide the attribute editor (by maximizing the task list). This is disabling the ability to switch between the task list and comments using key F11:

If this is too much work then it is okay for me to use ToDoList with a visible attribute editor, never mind!

Thank you for this wonderful tool!

[abstr]

Thx @TableListFan

I still think the idea has come merit so I've moved it to the Suggestions forum so it doesn't get lost.

ps. Here's another idea for you to try (I tested this myself):

• TDL allows you to create app-specific user-defined-tools (UDTs) that reference specific menu commands
  Note: Menu command IDs can be seen by opening 'Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts' and ticking the 'Show menu item IDs' checkbox
• To create a UDT:
  1. Open 'Preferences > User Defined Tools'
  2. Create a new tool using the toolbar button showing the app icon
  3. In the 'Arguments' field enter '-cmd' followed any number of menu command IDs separated by the '|' (pipe) character
     eg. '-cmd 34767|32836'
  4. Pick a memorable icon
• Finally switch to 'Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts' and assign the tools appropriate shortcuts.

Let me know how you go.

[TableListFan]

Thank you Dan for this input. It's the first time I've used a UDT, and I think there's still a lot for me to discover in ToDoList.

However, it doesn't fix my basic problem: I just want to use the F11 key to move the cursor from one area of the programme window to another for writing, the way it works when the Attribute Editor is shown. I only want to switch the focus to the comments area without breaking my work flow by taking the mouse, and not maximise the comments but the task list. F11 from the comments to the task list works, F11 from the task list to the comments does not work, while the task list is maximized with visible comments.

As already mentioned, I can also accept the way it currently works - because the new layout of the GUI offers many other advantages.

Greetings,
TLF

[abstr]

Good news @TableListFan

I've been able to rationalise the existing behaviour so that F11 switching when maximised will be possible in the next update to 9.0.

[abstr]

Fixed in 9.0.B4

[TableListFan]

Sorry @abstr , I don't want to annoy you, but it's not yet working as I imagined: my first condition was that the comments remain visible when the task list is maximised (set in the preferences).

I have attached my preferred settings in the ZIP file "Comments_visible.zip". If you start ToDoList.exe, you will see the view I meant: task list maximised with comments visible at the same time.

If you now press F11, the input focus does not switch between task list and comments. You have to click with the mouse in the comments field if you want to enter a comment for a task. It would be easier to switch with the keyboard.


Greetings,
TLF